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		<title>By: Web Data Takes Another Step Out of the Web Analytics Department &#171; Greater Returns // Aaron Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Web Data Takes Another Step Out of the Web Analytics Department &#171; Greater Returns // Aaron Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 14:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] that Adobe is carrying on Omniture&#8217;s mission to build a complete online marketing suite, as I predicted they would when I first wrote about the [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://blog.greaterreturns.me/2009/10/21/why-the-omniture-adobe-deal-may-be-brilliant/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adron: Obviously I&#039;d be curious to know what you know but can&#039;t divulge.  ;)  When you say that it was &quot;of a far simpler nature&quot; than we may realize, I don&#039;t know if you mean that from a technology perspective, or a business perspective.  If it&#039;s from a business perspective, I suspect that you mean it from Omniture&#039;s point of view -- i.e. they realized either a.) they couldn&#039;t grow any more without help; or b.) they realized they didn&#039;t have the capital or the time or the talent to integrate all of the technologies they acquired over the last few years.  

If (b) above is what you mean, I don&#039;t think they ever intended to integrate them all.  Exit strategy = &quot;buy all the ingredients, become category leader, sell to someone with deeper pockets and better talent, let them do the hard work.&quot;  Not a bad strategy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adron: Obviously I&#8217;d be curious to know what you know but can&#8217;t divulge.  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   When you say that it was &#8220;of a far simpler nature&#8221; than we may realize, I don&#8217;t know if you mean that from a technology perspective, or a business perspective.  If it&#8217;s from a business perspective, I suspect that you mean it from Omniture&#8217;s point of view &#8212; i.e. they realized either a.) they couldn&#8217;t grow any more without help; or b.) they realized they didn&#8217;t have the capital or the time or the talent to integrate all of the technologies they acquired over the last few years.  </p>
<p>If (b) above is what you mean, I don&#8217;t think they ever intended to integrate them all.  Exit strategy = &#8220;buy all the ingredients, become category leader, sell to someone with deeper pockets and better talent, let them do the hard work.&#8221;  Not a bad strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: Adron</title>
		<link>http://blog.greaterreturns.me/2009/10/21/why-the-omniture-adobe-deal-may-be-brilliant/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even though I&#039;m late posting to this entry, as you obviously know Aaron, I&#039;ve been watching the merger closely also.

I&#039;m also privy to some information that I can&#039;t divulge, but let it be known, the merger was of a far simpler nature than a lot of people realize.

As for the synergies, those are very interesting, and at the same time very confusing.  The technology stacks do conflict and complement each other.  If there ever was a company good at merging conflicting technologies together though, Adobe definitely has that experience.

My biggest interest out of the whole scenario is exactly how will they implement these things into their existing tool sets to complement the new analytics featuresets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though I&#8217;m late posting to this entry, as you obviously know Aaron, I&#8217;ve been watching the merger closely also.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also privy to some information that I can&#8217;t divulge, but let it be known, the merger was of a far simpler nature than a lot of people realize.</p>
<p>As for the synergies, those are very interesting, and at the same time very confusing.  The technology stacks do conflict and complement each other.  If there ever was a company good at merging conflicting technologies together though, Adobe definitely has that experience.</p>
<p>My biggest interest out of the whole scenario is exactly how will they implement these things into their existing tool sets to complement the new analytics featuresets.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://blog.greaterreturns.me/2009/10/21/why-the-omniture-adobe-deal-may-be-brilliant/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael: I think this is a strategic move on a long-term vision.  You are absolutely right that Adobe now has the challenge of maintaining and growing the Omniture customer base while the slow transition to embedded solution takes place. In the process, Adobe will have to figure out what the new business model is for monetizing the collection of page views, and how to make that transition. To make the transition successfully, though, they needed the category leader. Category leadership is an asset most people don&#039;t fully appreciate the value of.  It&#039;s incredibly difficult to lose once you have it, unless you really, really screw up. When you buy the category leader, you buy incredible strength in the market, and it is not something that can be achieved by competing at the product feature level.     

Also, perhaps I didn&#039;t emphasize this enough, but I think that these may be building blocks to an entirely new product or solution set.  Omniture&#039;s been attempting to build the perfect marketing optimization suite for a long time, and the thing that has been missing is content management and delivery (with a runtime component).  Adobe has intellectual assets and financial resources to finish delivering that vision.  

Ultimately, there are multiple ways Adobe can monetize the Omniture infrastructure, both as a direct product, and as embedded functionality in existing and new products.  

As for Microsoft...well, who knows.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael: I think this is a strategic move on a long-term vision.  You are absolutely right that Adobe now has the challenge of maintaining and growing the Omniture customer base while the slow transition to embedded solution takes place. In the process, Adobe will have to figure out what the new business model is for monetizing the collection of page views, and how to make that transition. To make the transition successfully, though, they needed the category leader. Category leadership is an asset most people don&#8217;t fully appreciate the value of.  It&#8217;s incredibly difficult to lose once you have it, unless you really, really screw up. When you buy the category leader, you buy incredible strength in the market, and it is not something that can be achieved by competing at the product feature level.     </p>
<p>Also, perhaps I didn&#8217;t emphasize this enough, but I think that these may be building blocks to an entirely new product or solution set.  Omniture&#8217;s been attempting to build the perfect marketing optimization suite for a long time, and the thing that has been missing is content management and delivery (with a runtime component).  Adobe has intellectual assets and financial resources to finish delivering that vision.  </p>
<p>Ultimately, there are multiple ways Adobe can monetize the Omniture infrastructure, both as a direct product, and as embedded functionality in existing and new products.  </p>
<p>As for Microsoft&#8230;well, who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi Shumpert</title>
		<link>http://blog.greaterreturns.me/2009/10/21/why-the-omniture-adobe-deal-may-be-brilliant/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rudi Shumpert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aaron,

I think you&#039;re spot on with this.  Great thoughts and insight on the merger.

-Rudi]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron,</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re spot on with this.  Great thoughts and insight on the merger.</p>
<p>-Rudi</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Feiner</title>
		<link>http://blog.greaterreturns.me/2009/10/21/why-the-omniture-adobe-deal-may-be-brilliant/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Feiner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aaron,


An interesting post. I can see your point.

I have several comments/questions to make.

First, if Adobe was in the market for a web analytics tool to &quot;provide performance measurement data at the asset level&quot; (as you put it) then why go for a player the size of Omniture?

$1.8bn is a hell of a price to pay for providing integrated measurement on your applications.
In addition, I don&#039;t believe Omniture is the ideal tool for measuring such applications in the first place.
I think Adobe would have been better off buying a smaller vendor such as UK-based Speed Trap with their proprietary tag-less app/Flash measurement method (perhaps Adobe never heard of them before). 

Second, if it was for the stable revenue stream - well - that now seems under (a little) more threat as GA and YWA have upped the game (side note: I believe that post GA v4 the key differentiator will turn from feature set to customer support - all the paid solutions will have to get better at it).

In addition, the association with Adobe might deter potential Omniture clients concerned about the direction of future product development. Will Adobe be as committed to the other Omniture Suite products such as SearchCenter, Merchandising, behavioural targeting and MVT. 

Hand it to Josh James - he got this deal timed to a tee. Four weeks later and I somehow doubt Adobe would pay $1.8bn. Insight or luck? Perhaps a little of both.

I have no inside contact to the key players on this deal. So I can only offer my speculative thoughts.

Omniture were shopping for a buyer for some time now.
As for Adobe, I&#039;m speculating they are positioning themselves as a potential acquisition target for someone like Microsoft.

Microsoft can now take out two birds in one go. First and foremost, eliminating the key competitor to Silverlight. At the same time they can get hold of an advance analytics tool to put them on par with Google and Yahoo. 

But I could be getting this all wrong. Time will tell.

Thanks,
Michael

Michael Feiner
AEP Convert]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron,</p>
<p>An interesting post. I can see your point.</p>
<p>I have several comments/questions to make.</p>
<p>First, if Adobe was in the market for a web analytics tool to &#8220;provide performance measurement data at the asset level&#8221; (as you put it) then why go for a player the size of Omniture?</p>
<p>$1.8bn is a hell of a price to pay for providing integrated measurement on your applications.<br />
In addition, I don&#8217;t believe Omniture is the ideal tool for measuring such applications in the first place.<br />
I think Adobe would have been better off buying a smaller vendor such as UK-based Speed Trap with their proprietary tag-less app/Flash measurement method (perhaps Adobe never heard of them before). </p>
<p>Second, if it was for the stable revenue stream &#8211; well &#8211; that now seems under (a little) more threat as GA and YWA have upped the game (side note: I believe that post GA v4 the key differentiator will turn from feature set to customer support &#8211; all the paid solutions will have to get better at it).</p>
<p>In addition, the association with Adobe might deter potential Omniture clients concerned about the direction of future product development. Will Adobe be as committed to the other Omniture Suite products such as SearchCenter, Merchandising, behavioural targeting and MVT. </p>
<p>Hand it to Josh James &#8211; he got this deal timed to a tee. Four weeks later and I somehow doubt Adobe would pay $1.8bn. Insight or luck? Perhaps a little of both.</p>
<p>I have no inside contact to the key players on this deal. So I can only offer my speculative thoughts.</p>
<p>Omniture were shopping for a buyer for some time now.<br />
As for Adobe, I&#8217;m speculating they are positioning themselves as a potential acquisition target for someone like Microsoft.</p>
<p>Microsoft can now take out two birds in one go. First and foremost, eliminating the key competitor to Silverlight. At the same time they can get hold of an advance analytics tool to put them on par with Google and Yahoo. </p>
<p>But I could be getting this all wrong. Time will tell.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Michael</p>
<p>Michael Feiner<br />
AEP Convert</p>
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